Tuesday, June 28, 2011

I Am The Poster Of Bulls*** (Response To Sonic Stadium)

EDITEDITEDIT on 7/1: Fixed the report an have my final words to say at the bottom.

I checked my traffic sources and saw that my Sonic Quality post was linked to by Sonic Stadium (a message board).  So I go to check it out but the link's gone.  Someone posted to it in this "shoutbox" thing and it must've fallen off the list by the time I found it.  So I assumed it was all good.

Then I find another link and this is the conversation that transgressed:


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VEDJ-F  Just found this bulls*** via Google. http://phantomfullforce.blogspot.com/2011/06/report-quality-of-sonic-games-wrt.html

Jun 27 2011 11:26 PM
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Nepenthe  Jun 27 2011 11:27 PM
I read the question then closed the link.
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KCG  Jun 27 2011 11:27 PM

I can't even be mad.
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Attitude Adjustment  Jun 27 2011 11:28 PM
I read the whole thing.

*facepalms at the "analysis"*
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Nepenthe  Jun 27 2011 11:29 PM
Why do you guys torture yourselves?
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Tatsumaki  Jun 27 2011 11:31 PM
Tab closed. :3
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Mr. NinjaShark  Jun 27 2011 11:31 PM
He counts E-10000G and E-10000R as seperate characters, yet the Super Forms aren't?

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Cero  Jun 27 2011 11:34 PM
What the fuck did I just skim over
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Negato  Jun 27 2011 11:36 PM
@NinjaShark: they are different characters, the E-10000R is the leader of the bunch and he even has some bits of Metal Sonic in him. (literally)
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Gartocer  Jun 27 2011 11:37 PM
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Skull Leader  Yesterday, 04:05 PM
Invalid the moment he used ratings since those usually are very subjective and can vary from person to person. Then again even Sonic-only games can flop harder than the ones with multiple characters (*cough*Sonic 4*cough*)

Well, I didn't think my post was that bad.  A bit aloof, yes, but not the worst I've seen.  Hmm, let me mention a few things first with that study.  First of all, I like Sonic games.  This wasn't meant to "bash" Sonic in any way.  I thought this was a "fun" study, something that would be interesting for me and others to see.  I don't get why there's a need to be mad or anything.  I don't hate extra characters.  As a matter of fact, I made this report with the inclination of disproving this notion of more characters = worse game.  It's supposed to be like a science report--think of a question, do research, come up with an unbiased answer (albeit a vague one); that's it.

Second, about the ratings.  Yes, I know that you really can't tell the absolute quality of a Sonic game so that's why I took the average ratings of a large pool of individuals...it was the closest to a game's score I could come up with.  Are the scores perfect?  No, but they're as close as I could feasibly get.  If you don't like the scores, come up with your own methods.

Have the guts to say this to my face.  I leave my comments open to anybody--you don't need a Google account or the ability to read those annoying verify letters.  I ask for as much feedback as possible for all my posts.  You don't like it, okay, but offer some improvement other than "idiot" and *facepalm*.  Both E-1000's should count as two characters, okay.  Sorry I haven't sat there and played through every Sonic game so that I could know that the E-1000's are more than just palette swaps.  And when I do criticize other peoples' articles, at least I give a rebuttal as to why I do.

Well, this is what you get for posting material online--others go at your throats over it.  This is what makes the Internet go around.  To quote the guy, "I can't even be mad."  I'm glad to have wasted your time with my article, couldn't have happened to a better group of pinheads.   I want to make nice for this apparently "offensive" material; we can't have people hating on me now, can we?

See?  I ain't even mad, now back to Black Ops KILLIN ZOMBIES!!!


7/1 Update: Alright, I got to the bottom of this nonsense.  Didn't get much of an "apology" but I realize what I did wrong with the report.  My conclusion was lazily crafted and I partially blamed the Sonic characters for the series' "demise."  I admit culpability there because after crunching all the numbers and banging out that graph, I became very tired and just winged the data interpretation & conclusion altogether.  While it sounds like I'm caving into the demands of a couple of Sonic fangirls, I agree that I screwed up a bit.

On the other hand, you have to realize that these are big-time Sonic fans who come from a message board that makes a big deal out of Sonic couple pairings (and My Little Pony) so of course they're going to violated if I make even the slightest bad remarks towards Sonic characters.  So even if my conclusion was dead on in the first place, it's going to draw ire from somebody.  Great, now I expect similar hate mail from 1-Up/Sonic haters...like I let stupid characters like Big and Silver off the hook...what a crap study, they'll say.


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